The former Minister of Justice, and who in recent days has become Blue and White’s representative in negotiations between her and the Likud, Haim Ramon, spoke today with Ben Caspit and Winon Magal on 103FM and revealed why the talks between the two sides ended without success. He called the opposition to the bill intended to extend the government term “crime, not stupidity.” He referred to blue-and-white members who opposed the bill, which was to extend the government’s tenure, saying that “politics is from them onwards. They did not understand the law and nothing, decided to commit suicide personally and deserved that these people should not approach the Knesset anymore.”
Breaking the silence as a mediator.
“I was not a mediator, I represented one side. If I break the silence I break in 103 and not in all sorts of places that have not known me until today. I want to tell you, do you know why we are going to the elections? Benjamin Netanyahu a ruling pig, what was so was. Thursday, we actually finished everything and almost towards the end a representative of Bibi came and said ‘Listen we want Bibi to serve another half year which means three years of rotation will be two years Bibi and one year Gantz’. I told them ‘not even half an hour’.
At that moment the negotiations broke down and it did not actually resume substantially until Sunday. On Sunday we managed to do something that Bibi folded because we managed to do what I think is most important of all – to pass the 2020 budget and there is a starting point left on March 23 if there is no 2021 budget, which Bibi did not want. Bibi wanted elections not rotation but in June. Anyone who voted against this law yesterday is extremely irresponsible because there is going to be hell here because the state budget will now be cut by tens of billions. It was just an introduction to what will happen. “
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I exposed the fact that you represent Gantz in negotiations. There was an ugly attack on you.
“I came back because the Supreme Court said that I did not have a moral defect and these scum are against me because I allegedly helped Bibi and they are for them to burn the state, the main thing will not be Bibi.”
The criticism and attack on you on the issue of the legal system is justified because you have turned around.
“Any criticism in my eyes of my views on the justice system is legitimate, anyone who curses me and blocks me and says things to me – my positions in the justice system are known, that’s why I became Minister of Justice, I did not turn over.”
You tore the mask off Netanyahu’s face, you realized that he did not want to reach an agreement and there would be no rotation and that is what the critics of the move say, you made a deal with a crook who did not intend to fulfill it.
“I closed all the loopholes left by the sages I warned them about then, including the fact that a MK who votes in favor of early elections cannot run on another list, he came (Netanyahu) and I think what did he mean? He will be two years old, arrive in May and in May he will try to advance the election. “Through a decision by the Likud faction that even that could not be closed to the end. True, Ganz will enter for 3 months and that is what he wanted.”
He blew up the negotiations because he’s a ruling pig who wanted more?
“He did not want an election. He is going to lose these elections big time. He has no chance of winning them. He has a bloc of 47 who would recommend.”
Who will they recommend?
“On Gideon Saar, on Bennett.”
Who would recommend Saar?
“Let’s talk about it on another show. He has no chance of winning the election. Bibi finished and he figured it out.”
The end of the Netanyahu era?
“The end of the Netanyahu era, in all three election campaigns I argued that the Netanyahu era was not over. He returned to negotiations because Gideon Saar arrived and threatened to continue his rule. Ganz will not give up on this matter even if he goes home and they did not believe me and that is the big mistake.”
For that it fell?
“That’s what it fell for.”
It does not fit me with what we know, why Gantz said yesterday only after he had a faction rebellion.
“This law did not give Bibi anything on the contrary it is a surrender of Bibi and Gantz achieved a huge achievement of passing 2020 and leaving the election date on March 23. He said pass the law so that the state has a budget so that there will be no chaos here.”
If you say that Netanyahu wants another six months in the first place.
“But this law is not prevented then on Wednesday after the law was passed, they would come to us and say let’s negotiate. We would say one hundred percent no problem. We had two preconditions: passing the 2020 budget without changing the election date, and the second condition that the rotation be on time. “These achievements have been achieved by law. It is good for everyone except ignorant people who have no idea what disaster they have inflicted on the economy, health, education and the like.”
Fictitious suicide?
“If the law had been passed on Wednesday there would have been time to negotiate that Bibi had time to back down, as he withdrew from the one who decided to rotate and withdrew from the budget. There was time to negotiate according to the principles we wanted. “A country from the beginning, ‘I told them,’ Forget it, there was a search committee, it ended its role. ‘”
Mickey Zohar said that if the law passes the election can not be on March 23.
“This is not the first time that Mickey Zohar has said very inaccurate and baseless things. We are going to the elections first and foremost because of the returns of Bibi who wanted a few more months. The fall of the law is a crime, not stupidity. This is the situation, the choice to pass a 2020 budget. “2021 until January 5, the elections on March 23 – Bibi’s surrender all the way. We take care of the State of Israel and everyone.”
Attorney Bossie said there is no such animal.
“But there is a law, the law is already written. Is not 2021 passed? Elections on March 23.”
That’s why I do not believe in the storm because he overthrew the law that was supposed to take care of the state. How do you explain the behavior of blue and white?
“People, no one understands anything, they have no idea, politics is one of them and beyond they did not understand the law and nothing and decided to commit suicide personally and it is appropriate that these people do not approach the Knesset anymore.”
What will happen?
“Or Gideon or Bennett or both together.”
Who do you believe more in, Saar or Netanyahu?
“To Gideon.”