The chairman of the joint list, Ayman Odeh, spoke this morning (Sunday) with Golan Yokfaz and Anat Davidov on 103FM about the withdrawal of RAAM from the list, as well as the wave of violence in the Arab sector.
A protest demonstration in Tamra after the death of Ahmad Hijazi. Photo: Omar Assadi
What responsibility do you have as a leader, the Arab public messenger to the Knesset, in the death of Hajazi?
“We did not fight enough, it is true that we closed the main arteries, we are fighting against weapons, against criminal gangs. We spoke from the blood of our hearts over the Knesset podium and probably all this is not enough.”
Did you not struggle enough or at all?
“It is impossible to say no at all, because we have done important things and raised it to general awareness, everyone knows about this issue and there is a government plan. Although we have harsh criticism of it but it was also built in the shadow of our struggle and as a result of our struggle but it is clearly not enough. “Things: organized crime gangs, protection, a gray market, unlicensed weapons, and a lack of decipherment for murders. The very fact that there are more Arab victims, more crime, so I feel responsible.”
Where is the government?
“I think she’s between two things, whether she treats us as enemies and as a backyard.”
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enemies?
“A state commission of inquiry has determined that the police treat us as enemies and not as citizens. It is a different people, it does not interest us, this is what the state commission of inquiry of the Israeli government has determined.”
How does the Israeli government now treat the Arabs? What is happening to the revolution that Netanyahu went through?
“What a turnaround? In the last two weeks, he has visited us for more than 30 years in various positions.”
Does it move anything to the audience?
“Nothing, nothing, You will not find Arab citizens putting the ballot in the ballot box. “Some speak out of anger or indifference, but in the moment of truth, the Arab citizens will not put the note down.”
Mansour Abbas did work.
“What he did is a big mistake, and unfortunately Rabbi Netanyahu worked on it and it is very bad. It managed to get him out of the joint, we will continue the successful path we did especially in the last year, we made the center-left believe that without us it is impossible. “That the common is legitimate and he wants it in the government and also the right-wing party, which with our power also cannot form a government.”
This is what Netanyahu did with the legitimacy he gave you.
“It is not Netanyahu who gave us legitimacy, we took that legitimacy because we reached 15 seats. If we had three seats we would not get anything from anyone. We take thanks to our struggle, we have to continue on this path.”
You were 15 seats at the height of your power. You’re 10 on a good day, where did you miss Mansour Abbas?
“In the last election, too, we started with 10 seats and reached 15. As for Mansour, I regret that he did not understand that we would take our equality out of power and unity and not out of subservience. The people who subsided in the 70s and 50s received nothing. Those who fought in those years are the ones who got it. “
Is this how Mansour Abbas treats Netanyahu? obsequious?
“I heard him talk about ‘take advantage of me, take advantage of him.’ He said a week ago that the Jews will decide who will be the prime minister and we will work with every prime minister. Sorry, this is an internalization of the law of the nation, you say the state keys are in the hands of the Jews. “.
He does not pass the blocking percentage and it could be that it will bring Netanyahu to power.
“It is important for me to convince our public and not Mansour, along with him Democratic Jews because the issue is not Arabs against Jews but a common struggle for a democratic society. This is the story of us all, Arabs and Jews together so I will do everything to convince our public for good values. To all of us. “
Abbas says he is doing for Arab society and you the common ones are not doing enough.
“We managed to continue the 922 government plan regarding the Arab population for another year, that is, three billion shekels for the Arab citizens. This is us. Four months ago, we managed to freeze the Kaminitz law, which was so difficult for the Arab citizens.”
There is ongoing murder in Arab society that the government is not addressing.
“What did Mansour Abbas do? What did he bring? Zero, really zero, precisely the way of unity and I am talking about equality out of power, unity, power. That is what will bring results.”
MK Ofer Kasif writes – Israel is guilty of ethnic cleansing, it is good that it will stand trial in The Hague. Sign it?
“I say – the right of the Palestinian people under occupation to fight against the occupation by all means. By the way, if someone tells me ‘you support terrorist attacks’ – no, I oppose harming innocent people, whether it is Jews or Palestinians, but referring to international courts is “A non-violent struggle and it is part of a struggle of an occupied people, what is the problem? I want to see everyone leave the occupied territories, so that there will be peace that will be good for the Palestinians and the Jews.”
If Ashkenazi is arrested in London, is that okay?
“The main problem is what Ashkenazi and others did in the occupied territories. Enough, there is an occupied people. Four million Palestinians are under constant occupation. What are the officers, the chiefs of staff in the occupied territories doing there? I am interested in the end of this occupation. “
Is this what needs to be done?
“I support the entire struggle of the Palestinian people to end the occupation and turn to international courts as part of a just struggle.”
Do you welcome the decision?
“Who is afraid of a court? Investigations. I think all this is right and I support the whole struggle of the Palestinian people for an end to an occupation that will bring peace.”
Murder of women, 27 women were murdered in the past year. How do you handle?
“The occupation also brings violence in Israeli society, Strengthens the status of the man that he is a warrior, all things are intertwined. We need to bring peace, peace and equality and democracy and social justice and fight with all our might against the criminal phenomenon of murder of women, murder is murder is murder. We are all together in this place. “